• Consenting witness for sale deed has given Notarized GPA

I have made agreement with X&Y for purchase of House, which was self acquired by father of X&Y sons. Now Father and mother of X&Y have expired. Now X has two major sons and Y has one major daughter (presently out of Country, but giver notarized GPA to father Y to sell behalf of her) and minor son. Now I have made agreement with X&Y as a confirming Party and two sons & one daughter as a consenting witness. Daughter of Y was suppose to come sale deed registration, but due to Covid-19 she may not able to travel immediately, however notarized GPA to her father has been given to sign behalf of her.

1. Now can proceed with Registration of sale deed with this notarised GPA a consenting witness
2. or shall i wait till daughter of Y to return and sign as consenting witness
The SBI has already sanction loan based on the notarized GPA and Sale Agrement.

Kindly clarify
Asked 5 years ago in Property Law
Religion: Hindu

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18 Answers

It is not ancestral property 

 

2) you don’t consent of X and Y children for purchase of property 

 

3) you can proceed with registration of sale deed 

4) no need to wait for return of daughter 

Ajay Sethi
Advocate, Mumbai
99775 Answers
8145 Consultations

Bank is different authority and Registration procedure is different government authority and both has different laws, rules and regulations.

 

Here you need to get extension of your sancton loan and wait for Covid-19 situation to get normal whole over the world. I think Bank will cooperate with your on this ground.

Ganesh Kadam
Advocate, Pune
13008 Answers
267 Consultations

Do  X Y have grand children ? IF yes than minor share cannot be sell with out court order and children of X and Y will introduce as seller and not witness in sale deed.

Through registered GPA, Y can act on her behalf but not as witness but as seller.

Yogendra Singh Rajawat
Advocate, Jaipur
23079 Answers
31 Consultations

You can proceed without taking consent from sons and daughters of X and Y

Ajay Sethi
Advocate, Mumbai
99775 Answers
8145 Consultations

If no grand children and property is self acquired property of X Y parents. than any children can act has witness but no say in sale of property. NO consent require.

Yogendra Singh Rajawat
Advocate, Jaipur
23079 Answers
31 Consultations

Dear Sir,

If the property is not ancestral property (not coming from four generations) then you can purchase the property even without the consent signatures of sons and daughter of X & Y. It is better to get signature Y on his behalf and on behalf of his major daughter. If possible take similar GPAs from sons of X also in favour of their father.

Kishan Dutt Kalaskar
Advocate, Bangalore
6230 Answers
499 Consultations

I have already mentioned in my above answer that you have to wait tell the COvid situation get normal.

 

For  Sale deed compulsory the owner or inherited party should present at the time of sale deed. 

 

As per Supreme Court citations sale deed is not register in the sub registrar office on POA or GPOA basis.

Ganesh Kadam
Advocate, Pune
13008 Answers
267 Consultations

1. Since immovable property is not an "ancestral property" and was self-acquired by Father, the class-I hindu legal heir of Father are "ONLY" the Sons (X & Y) and the children of X & Y have no legal rights /claims whatsoever, to sign /give consent or NOC or GPA or whatever.  Further IF at all property belongs to Minor in anyway, THEN such property CANNOT be sold without court orders.

2. By virtue of above, ONLY the Sons (X & Y) are entitled to execute the Sale Deed of property belonging to their Father, mentioning as "Consenting & Confirming parties".  Signature of other family members as Witnesses signature/s have no legally significance value and shall have only persuasive value, during disputes in court.

Hemant Agarwal
Advocate, Mumbai
5612 Answers
25 Consultations

- No one , can not claim any share in father's self earned/ acquired property. Only can claim in ancestral properties.

- Since the said property of the father of XY was self acquired property , hence after the death of their parents , the property become the self acquired property of XY legally.

- Hence, XY are having to transfer /sell the same to anyone as per their wish , and their children's consent is not need . 

- Yes , you can proceed for registration in your name without taking any consent from sons and daughter of XY. 

Mohammed Shahzad
Advocate, Delhi
15814 Answers
242 Consultations

1. If the notarisation of POA was done in abroad and then stamped in India then on this basis the POA holder can make the deed of conveyance representing the actual seller.

2. The notairsed POA done on foreign soil and then adjudicated in india is very much valid unless and until the same revoked by the maker.

Devajyoti Barman
Advocate, Kolkata
23653 Answers
537 Consultations

The presence of children of X & Y is not necessary.

The registration of sale deed by paying appropriate stamp duty is compulsory.

The presence of daughter of Y is not necessary, you can proceed with GPA.

To avoid furtre complications, you can take signatures of the children / grand children (if  major) as witnesses.

 

 

S Srinivasa Prasad
Advocate, Hyderabad
2876 Answers
9 Consultations

1. The property of the father of X & Y, after his intestate death shall devolve equally on his legal heirs i.e., X and Y.

Thus after inheriting their respective share of property, they become the absolute owners of their share of property.

In this situation they need not obtain consent or signature or permission from their children.

Therefore the signatures of their children are not necessary.

2. The above answer suits to all your question in this connection.

 

 

T Kalaiselvan
Advocate, Vellore
89977 Answers
2492 Consultations

It is confirmed that the share of property inherited by X and Y shall become their own and absolute properties.

They need not obtain consent or permission or signature from their children to sell the property to the prospective buyer.

 

T Kalaiselvan
Advocate, Vellore
89977 Answers
2492 Consultations

If it is not ancestral property then consent from X&Y son daughter not required.

 

Mohammed Mujeeb
Advocate, Hyderabad
19325 Answers
32 Consultations

Yes you can proceed without consent of X and Y son and daughter.

Mohammed Mujeeb
Advocate, Hyderabad
19325 Answers
32 Consultations

1. The children of X and Y have no right, title or interest in the property during the lifetime of their parents. So there was no requirement of a GPA from them. The GPA creates unnecessary complications.

2. Sale deed can be executed by the GPA holder on the basis of GPA but GPA has to be registered. Mere notarisation does not suffice.

3. Let it be stated very clearly in the sale deed that none of the heirs of X and Y have any right, title or interest in the property.

Ashish Davessar
Advocate, Jaipur
30840 Answers
981 Consultations

1. Yes you can proceed without presence of children of X and Y if property is purchased by their father. 

2. X and Y are legal owner of the property and can sell the property without consent of their children.

Mohit Kapoor
Advocate, Rohtak
10686 Answers
7 Consultations

1. Yes you can

2. You can even wait if you require

Prashant Nayak
Advocate, Mumbai
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249 Consultations

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