• Rti Sale deed related

My late father had purchased one property duly registered in 2000 but mutation not done , but in the sale deed vendor sale deed details and second witness contact address not mentioned. As first witness has died I need second witness contact details and previous sale deed details. I visited sub registrar office then subregistrar gave certified copy of sale deed but these two information not found.

Then i sought same information vide RTI related to registered sale deed of year 2000

Question no. 1 - Please provide second witness contact address who has signed in sale deed. 
Question no. 2 - Please provide the vendor sale deed details of the sale deed.

PIO / Sub registrar replied - Information pertains to certified copy of sale deed come and collect the certified copy there you will get the information.

First Appeal done - Already certified copy obtained but these two information not found.
FAA order - PIO response is correct 

Second appeal also done - Hearing pending.

Please suggest how I will get these two informations and other than sale deed certified copy what else documents are kept in record at Sub registrar office.
Asked 5 years ago in Civil Law

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11 Answers

In sub registrar office only for record copy of deed is there their is no such document to keep separate record of witness , though there is online now and in 2000 there was register where parties and witness sign seek copy of same you can find detail there.

Shubham Jhajharia
Advocate, Ahmedabad
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Sub registrar office keeps only copy of sale deed in record, no other details. May be sale deed is not duly drafted and missed above details which you are looking for.

And why you need theses information. Your ownership is secure as property is purchased through registered sale deed.

Yogendra Singh Rajawat
Advocate, Jaipur
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If the same is not provided in second appeal you need to Approach the HC in writ petition

Prashant Nayak
Advocate, Mumbai
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4.1 on 5.0

You may get the same from the register where these sale deed entered in the Registrar Office but if the same has not been given in Sale Deed then where it will come , not at all , this should be seen at the time of going to the sale deed that all the required information has been correctly filled or not , they simply require the person and his signature with full address. 

Koshal Kumar Vatsa
Advocate, Gurgaon
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You are in possession of property since 2000. Anyhow, your ownership cannot be questioned. Witness address is missing but his digital picture along with signature and thumb impression exits in sale deed and failure to mention previous sale details is just a drafting mistake. Merely on these points, registered document cannot be consider forged. 

 

Yogendra Singh Rajawat
Advocate, Jaipur
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4.4 on 5.0

once sale deed is executed duly stamped and registered your father would be absolute owner of property 

 

2) mutation does not confer title to property 

 

3) it is only entry in revenue records for payment of property taxes 

 

4) burden of proof is upon vendor family to prove sale deed executed fraudulently 

Ajay Sethi
Advocate, Mumbai
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Then civil suit is only remedy for establishing title

Prashant Nayak
Advocate, Mumbai
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4.1 on 5.0

Since sale deed is registered you can get mutation on same the officer has to pass an order of mutation if they claim it as fraudulent they have to give evidence of same.

Shubham Jhajharia
Advocate, Ahmedabad
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179 Consultations

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There is no time limit for filing mutation application.
Any person acquiring an interest in a holding or a part thereof by any means/instruments, may file a petition in Form-IA in the office of the Circle Officer in whose jurisdiction the holding or a part thereof is situated for mutation of his name in respect of that land.

Mohammed Mujeeb
Advocate, Hyderabad
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If the copy held by the sub-registrar's office shows nothing than what is present there in that document, you cannot get anything more even by filing of plenty of appeals.

The vendor details may be found in the registered sale deed in the name of vendor itself.

T Kalaiselvan
Advocate, Vellore
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The vendor cannot raise any objection on this at this stage especially after the passage of two decades on this.

You may approach the Tehsildar for mutation, let them say that there is an objection to this after which you may resort to legal action on this.

 

T Kalaiselvan
Advocate, Vellore
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